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ROBE007

As I've said in the past, our Lodge is so damp we often have to put the C.H. on even in the 'summer' to attempt to dry it out, however we had a quite an unexpected update on this situation following the AGM when we had a long discussion with Richard Deak about the extreme dampness in the down stairs...

ROBE007

Hi
Having seen the Weather Forecast for temperatures ranging from Minus 17 down to Minus 30 in the Rannoch/Perthshire Area this week, I was wondering how anyone staying at LRHC is managing with heating their Lodge to a comfortable temperature?I
Ronnie

ROBE007

Hi Stuart Well thanks to your assistance I got one stage further this time around and managed to get into the 'Unofficial' Forum site but it didn't recognise either my name; email or password so I'm back to where I started! It did ask me to confirm new password and said it would send Text/Email(?) F...

ROBE007

Stuart, whilst I remember, I am still unable to access the original Owners' Forum. I keep trying the new web address but continue to get instead the Landrover Owners Forum!
What web address are you using?
Ronnie

ROBE007

Welcome Porto! No doubt at some point or other during your Uncle's 40 years at Rannoch our paths have crossed when the Club was shiney new and a vibrant hive of activity for all generations of the Family. I had hoped following a new Owner at the refurbished Hotel and a clearing out of the old style ...

ROBE007

Hi Stuart Just as there has to be accountability over the Management Fees/Accs etc I think there should be accountability twice yearly on ALL of the Weeks within Units ie :- How many Units/Weeks within them are there How many are owned on Perpetuity Contract? How many are owned on 5 year Contract? H...

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I think for many older owners commenting on the Forum is difficult. I've taken part in many Forums and LRHC Forum is not the least user friendly. One has to attempt to sign in, no easy task unless you sign in permanently if you finally manage to get access, personally I get locked out every few mont...

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As predicted Stuart, I too felt bamboozled with the Sales figures! An owner asked the question that always seems to be the missing piece of the puzzle, ie the Accountant always omits to present the Total Balance accrued on rentals of Club owned Units MINUS the additional overall costs to the Club on...

ROBE007

Hi Stuart Sorry I went missing, but hey again I was somehow locked out of this Forum and the 'Unofficial' Forum it's taken me weeks to get back in eventually to this Forum, however still locked out of other Forum! Nothing much changes as we approach yet another AGM, the dots just don't meet up! I th...

ROBE007

Do you think they were supplied free by Nescafe to encourage Sale of Pods?
If Committee bought them a lot of Elderly Owners who had to scrape together enough money to pay the additional money on top of their Maintenance Fees will be very angry indeed at the waste!

ROBE007

I actually think the Nespresso Machine is more about impressing the Renters Market as I notice in a lot of Hotels the Instant Coffee sachets have been replaced by Pods for use in Coffee Machines. It's basically another money making venture, Customers are provided with 3/4 Pods and then the have to p...

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Hi Thomas I am exactly the same, managed to get on and register, went back in didn't recognise me asked me to Register, put in my details and it came up I was already registered! Vicious circle ie keeps asking me to Register my details and when I do it says someone already registered using these det...

ROBE007

Has any owner actually managed to get into the Unofficial Forum set up independently of the Club i.e. lrforum? I have tried but constantly it merely leads to the Land Rover Forum. Am I using the wrong address -
Lrforum.co.uk?

ROBE007

I can quite understand you are reluctant to name actual names, however as the Club is like a leaky boat and any info being kept from owners, no matter how creatively hidden within Accounts, will sooner rather than later leach out and owners will be very angry indeed that the GM and particularly the ...

ROBE007

I can't say I am truly shocked at this state of affairs, there seemed to be an avoidance from both the GM and the Committee to answer owners' simple questions over the past two years ie "Is the Sales Strategy Working? And "How many weeks have been sold?"🤔, We have been passed off with...

ROBE007

I do appreciate you having at least made a suggestion. You are correct in saying how fruitless it is reporting any issues at LRHC Reception and indeed to the GM/Committee. I honestly can't see how it is Legally of Morally right for the Committee to insist Owners keep their Financial end of the Manag...

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Stephen Walton! ,but 🤔😂😂! Oh I'm sorry I don't mean to be rude to you, but I was an Owner during Mr Walton's unfeasibly extended period as Chairman when most Owners thought he had been Super-glued to the LRHC Chair and were pretty sure that during that long period the Proxy Vote count held by the Ch...

ROBE007

All very nice a new coffee machine, but do you know what I'd really like, I do genuinely mean really REALLY LIKE? A habitable Lodge! I don't think I'm asking much having paid my Maintenance Fees plus any Extra Amount being asked of me by the Committee since LRHC was originally opened, and yet I coul...

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lrforum.co.uk - Is this the correct address? I ask as the Land Rover Forum is almost the same - lrforum.com and every time I type in lrforum.co.uk inevitably I am sent straight to Land Rover Forum! I think the webmaster has to have a rethink as sooner than later Land Rover will say he attempting to ...

ROBE007

Apparently it was reopened 7 weeks ago! Funny but I didn't see any notification to owners about that? I'd urge ALL owners to Register at :-www.lochrannochhighlandclub.net and join in the debates; post your own ideas or opinions on the club or how you think it's being run. Perhaps you might like to t...

ROBE007

Yes the original Owner's Forum was great, and when opened up to wider participants it was helpful to read their perspective on the Club or Rannoch Area! John Hurst's input was also invaluable at that time helping to remove that truly awful Committee Chairperson and some of the other dreadful Committ...

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I do think too much staff time; energy and Management focus is on Renters. I've noticed in recent years the immediate assumption on arriving at Reception is that you're a Renter on a first visit, and no longer do OWNERS get any acknowledgement like 'Lovely to see you again!' Little things do matter,...

ROBE007

Well I think this is the first year we couldn't bear to stay for our full week in our Lodge, as we had an utterly miserable time. The Ensuite Bedroom continues to stinks to high heaven of dampness, which has over the decades rotted soft furnishings and carpets had to be replaced whilst wall paper pe...

ROBE007

I actually thought that at some point excess Electricity Charges were so frequent and complaints so high from Owners that a decision had been made that on each entry date Owners were handed Electricity Figure for their H/L and on Day of Departure Final Elec Figure was noted by Staff and copy handed ...

ROBE007

During our visit this year we met two Owners in the Hotel taking refuge from their equally damp Lodges. They BOTH had similar thoughts about withholding Maintenance Fees as the Contract is based on both LRHC and the Lodge Owner having to comply with its terms on the one hand of Owner paying said Mai...

ROBE007

I totally agree. Having complained, I reckon for the past 20 + years, about the dampness and smell in the lower floor rooms of our Highland Lodge, I was advised that this had been looked at and there was no dampness. Somewhat surprising given the previous sets of curtains and carpets literally rotte...

ROBE007

During my recent visit I discovered Agency Staff were being used to Service H/L; Apts; etc which makes absolutely no sense given the Housekeeping Supervisor was apparently made redundant but does clarifies some of the Housekeeping costs! There was an obvious deterioration of Furnishings, and of item...

ROBE007

As my brother was the owner of a rural Hotel in Scotland, I am aware that the responsibility of the owner in respect of hiring out a room or even part of the property is a lot more complex than one imagines. Unless the Owner or Manager is prepared to be on site and take full responsibility that Heal...

ROBE007

Thank you that was helpful!

ROBE007

Can someone remind me, do H/L's have a Cafeteria
or is it a Perculator?

ROBE007

Totally agree, friends were excited at visiting Rannoch with a view to possibly becoming owners but on seeing the Dog Hair stuck to the sole of their slippers, spent one night in the Lodge and made a quick exit without even having breakfast before a major Asthma episode started. Given Rannoch's remo...

ROBE007

Sounded horrific particularly if any children were in the vicinity and witnessed it. I can't fathom why owners feel the need to bring their Dog with them if they find it difficult to keep on a Lead to control it. Why must others who are not Dog Lovers have to put up with the constant barking; foulin...

ROBE007

Has the Dunalistair Hotel offered LRHC owners a special discount on Dinner Reservations for a particular evening during their stay? Loch Rannoch Hotel are offering Owners Meal up to value of £35.00 each in the Estate Restaurant if booking a two night stay which we usually book anyway. Saving of £70!...

ROBE007

Thanks for that clarification John. Strange but I was certain it was mentioned in the Newsletter as a Whisky Tasting Event, and being partial to a Glenfiddoch Whisky having it on the Sabbath did seem odd! Why can't the Committee use the room at the Waterfront above the Water Sport Area for Owners Me...

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I'd rather have the Owners' Meeting at Loch Rannoch Hotel than Dunalistair, given that Rannoch has been known to have the 'occasional' rain shower! Why on earth would anyone think it more conducive to walk into the village in the pouring rain rather than to stay onsite? The other thing I can't for t...

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I agree it seems odd owners are being asked to go to the Dunalistair Hotel for the Owners Meeting each week when it was much more convenient for all owners to pop into the Meeting Room above the Water Sport Facility. Who came up with this 'Free Advert' for the Dunalistair Hotel I wonder, as it doesn...

ROBE007

Not good news, and it all adds to the reasons why the Apartment Block should have been sold, to cut the Club's unsustainable losses and add some much needed money into the Refurbishment Programme's coffers. Heard anything about the House going on the Market? Prior to that, a Building Survey should b...

ROBE007

It would seem then the Committee is in a Catch 22 situation. If they walked away from the Leisure Contract the MAJORITY who voted FOR the Leisure Contract would be complaining. Being in advanced years myself, I certainly won't be making much use of the Leisure Facilities other than the occasional di...

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I was delighted to read that John Hurst and the Committee have signed a new Leisure Facilities contract with the Hotel. I have been advocating for some time the importance of access to such Facilities in 2024/onwards as we try to attract a new generation to buy into the Club, particularly a generati...

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Thomas, don't hold your breath waiting on the good news on Sales! I have said for the past few years that November until Easter is a 'Dead' period for Sales. Why pay for a Sales Team during these 'barren' months? Makes absolutely no sense. The Manager or Committee should be thinking along the lines ...

ROBE007

Perhaps Richard has caught a bug and has been too ill to reply; perhaps he has mislaid his notes on the numbers of Proxy Votes and how they were used; perhaps he has been on holiday; or too busy; snowed in; there's been a Flood and the office washed away with all the relevant info inside, perhaps; p...

ROBE007

Good evening Richard Can you clarify, in regards to the votes for the Weeks the Club owns, what actually happens to them or are they used as one proxy or a great deal more than one vote? Similarly the Proxy Votes passed to the Committee by the Owners unable to attend, are they advised they can post ...

ROBE007

Since the Refurbishment and reopening of the Rannoch Hotel the ambiance of the LRH Club and surrounding area has felt reinvigorated. Being able to sit outside Hotel having Lunch or a pre Dinner Drink has been a bonus and being able to have a meal without cooking it is perfect at times! However most ...

ROBE007

Hi I think there may have been different outcome on the additional annual levy vote if the Committee had been much more open with Owners about the preliminary discussion on an opening offer of £500,000 for the Apt Block being informally made (the apts would have been bought; demolished and rebuilt),...

ROBE007

John Hurst getting 150 votes and the consensus being that was the top number of votes received makes absolutely no sense! What happened to the vast majority of Owners who didn't cast their votes? This is very concerning and suggests to me that a business, albeit a Time Share Business, which is of so...

ROBE007

I was actually thinking, when you mentioned mystery, did the 'Newish' Committee ever disclose the number of Proxy Votes it held on behalf of owners? Or, as in the past, does the number still remain undisclosed?

Ronnie

ROBE007

It has always been the case that many owners 'swerve' any responsibility to the Club/Committee in respect of keeping up to date with what's happening at the Club; how are the Committee responding to it; and are so irresponsible they don't even bother to vote on Motions being put forward at the AGM! ...

ROBE007

You are absolutely correct! The most galling thing is that no other options were offered to Owners to vote on, it was either vote in favour of the Levy in order to continue with the Refurbishment Programme OR vote against and Refurbishment is delayed indefinitely! I am not at all familiar with the A...

ROBE007

Problem is many of the more recent 'Owners' who bought into the Club on either a 5 year Sales Contract or the much longer 'Life long' Contract, are ignorant of our Club's previous troubled History and some appear to think it is the Older Owners just throwing cold water on the Committees 'Refurbishme...

ROBE007

You're correct, the Chair did make a passing reference to Glenrannoch House on being asked if there were any plans to sell it, but other than saying, that may be up for reconsideration now that the number of Tenants has reduced.

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